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If we've ever had a must read interview in the short time that we've been at this, well, here it is. The members of Big Bear took the same approach to answering our questions that they do to making music; throw all regard for the norm and complacency out the window. A band with a constantly evolving line up (most recently the addition of a keyboardist), Big Bear are presently in the studio capturing their current sound and recording their second fill length album. Read on to peer into the minds of guitarist Joel Roston, growler Jordyn Bonds, and the rest of the band for a glimpse into the state of mind responsible for Big Bear.

Photo by Heather McGrath © 2006

 

idle hands: How and when did you guys start playing?

Jordyn Bonds: The band formed when David and Joel got together to start an "arena rock" side project. David was in a prog rock band called The Nationale Blue at the time; Joel, Jonathan, and I were (and still are) in a shoegazey band called Polaris Mine. David and Joel brought Jonathan in on drums, but quickly realized they weren't getting anywhere with the arena rock agenda, so Joel came in one day with a bunch of songs he'd written.

There have been a couple of line-up changes -- most recently we've addded our friend Joanne Dill [read: Webster -Joel] on keyboards.

ih: How would you describe your sound?

Joel Roston: Well, I can tell you how I respond when people who haven't heard us ask what we sound like and that's, "It's, like, loud rock music." If pressed further, I follow up with, "We really love The Beatles."

ih: What's the best thing about the Boston music scene?

Jordyn: The best thing about playing music in Boston is that, for the most part, people are genuinely excited about music. A certain group of very committed and enthusiastic people come out to shows, they listen, they interact. More strangers will come up to you after a show to talk about your music than in most other places I've played in the US.

ih: What's the Boston music scene missing?

Jordyn: Despite what I said above, more people coming out to shows! It's a paradox about this town that there are, what, ninety million universities here but barely any college kids coming out to shows. Sure, they'll go see Arcade Fire at the Orpheum or whatever, but where's the local love? I'm sure they all go home every summer and go to shows in their towns, but why not while at school as well? I think that sort of residual turnover rate keeps the scene smaller and more insulated than it should be, given Boston's size.

ih: Is it a Big Bear show without a broken tambourine?

Joel: Good question! I've been reading a ton about the Sorites Paradox lately. It doesn't always manifest itself as a paradox, mind you -- sometimes it's just more of a puzzle, really (though there is a paradoxical equation that can be derived). It's often referred to as a "little by little" argument.

The traditional example is a heap of sand. Like, if I tell you that I have a grain of sand, you wouldn't consider that a heap. Nor would you consider two or five or twenty or probably a hundred grains of sand a heap. There would be a point, however, after I added a certain number of grains at which you would admit that I have a heap of sand. The trick is figuring out where "some sand" ends and "a heap of sand" begins.

Likewise, if I were to tell you that a man who stands six-feet-six-inches is tall, you'd agree. Certainly, subtracting an inch wouldn't make him not tall. Subtracting even two inches wouldn't make him not tall. But sooner or later, after subtracting an inch a certain number of times, one would have to admit that that mother fucker is no longer tall, right? Certainly, you can lay down some arbitrary rule, like, "Six feet is the cut off. Anyone under six feet is no longer tall." But, then, like, if you had thirty people that you had to divide up into the categories of short and tall with fifteen of them being four feet tall, fourteen being one millimeter over six-feet tall and one of them being one-millimeter under six-feet tall, would you really put that last guy or gal or person of indeterminate gender in the short group? Doubtful, friends. Doubtful.

And, but, so, like, is a Big Bear show still a Big Bear show without a broken tambourine? I would have to say yes. In fact, I believe it would be a Big Bear show without a tambourine all together. We often times don't have a tambourine at practice. If not having a tambourine at a Big Bear show wasn't a Big Bear show, then, logically, not having a tambourine at Big Bear practice wouldn't be a Big Bear practice, right? Sometimes we don't even have all of our members at practice.

So, just scanning the possible permutations and iterations of the presentation of "Big Bear," I would have to say that not only is a Big Bear show without a broken tambourine decidedly a Big Bear show, but I would think that there are a number of established parameters that, if somehow shifted or changed, would not compromise the structural integrity of Big Bear or the idea of a "Big Bear show." This would include, but is not limited to employing different instruments, substituting, losing, or gaining members, PA quality, lighting arrangement, body temperature of band members, level of psychedelic awareness of band members, etc.

Of course, this is all open for discussion. I'm not sold on any of it -- it's just what I've been thinking about lately. Email me to discuss: bigbearbigbear@gmail.com

ih: Why should people come see you live?

Joel: I have no idea why people should come to see us live. I can comment on why we enjoy playing live, certainly, but that's about where my knowledge on the subject ends. I mean, if I HAD to come up with an answer or people were going to kill my parents in front of me? Is that what you're asking? If that were the case, I would say that you should come see us live maybe if you're a friend of ours and you want to support us. Or maybe you should come see us live if you borrowed something from one of us and your schedule doesn't permit you to retrieve the item at any other time. Likewise, if we borrowed something from you and we told you we'd bring it to the show (which I don't know if I'd do because that seems like a ploy to get someone to come to a show UNLESS the person already said they were DEFINITELY coming) you should probably come out. Certainly, if you're related to one of us and we're playing in a city that you live in, that's a good reason. If you're one of our co-workers and you're curious about what we do, certainly that seems like it could be a motivating factor.

I guess there are reasons to see bands that go beyond those I listed, though. Like, when Ho-ag and Hallelujah the Hills played that combined show together as one band. That's a good reason to go to a show -- like a once in a lifetime event (I missed that show, by the way). Or, if a band doesn't play around town too often and they're here on tour. Really, though, these aren't reasons to come out and see "our" band, which is the question we were asked here. I guess that's the way the whole darn human comedy keeps perpetuatin' itself, down through the generations, Westward the wagons, across the sands of time until we... ah, look at me, I'm ramblin' again.

 



 

 


ih: What bands have you been currently listening to?

Joel: I've been listening to the new Parts and Labor and the new Gowns records because those are the two CDs that I have (I loaned out everything else of note). Jordyn's probably been listening to some awesome new music, though. Let me ask her real quick. Hold on.

"Jordyn Bonds is typing" Okay. "I've been listening to this band that Greg [from Polaris Mine. - Joel] gave me a record of, Cheer Accident." When I explained it was for an interview, she wrote, "Oh. Black Moth Super Rainbow, Manitoba, LCD Soundsystem, the Monks."

Let's try Jonathan. He's typing away. "not a lot of late. Ive listened to that Panda Bear record a couple times. Girl talk a couple of times. I have Mew, Fastbacks, Helms and the Advantage in my CD player which I listen to maybe once or twice a week." If that isn't a completely measured, honest, believable, non-hyperbolic answer, then I don't know what is.

Let me email Webster (she's never on line) while I IM David (he's always on line). I loaned Webster my entire twelve CD set of The Norton Anthology of Western Music a few months ago -- let's see if she lists it.

Also, let's see if we can predict what David has to say. I think he'll say Growing, Iron and Wine, and... that's all I'll say. Let's see if Jordyn has any guesses. Okay, Bonds says, " Hahaha The Shins, Hot Chip... Mew, maybe?"

David says (without any regard for punctuation or capitalization -- the commas are even mine), "mew, brit pop, shins, neil young, the thermals, the beatles, will be listening to elliot smith too" Jordyn totally nailed it. What the fuck do I know? I'll tell you what I know: I know that I need to spend a little more Q.T. with my friend David! Let the record show, however, that though I would never have recalled the band name "The Advantage," I totally would've said that Jonathan has been listening to video game band music.

Okay, just waiting on Webster now. Here it is: "Actually, the new deerhoof album is my favorite one of theirs so far and I've been listening to it quite a bit. Also, the works of composers Piero Piccioni and Shigeru Umebayashi. Does the Norton Anthology count?"
She's totally rocking the anthology! My friend.

ih: What are Big Bear's summer plans?

Joel: We're currently putting a new record together which we'll be recording at Machines With Magnets in Providence, RI with Keith Souza at the end of June. Other than that, nothing much -- we're playing some shows out of town. We just confirmed a thing in August at the Middle East. I can check out the Big Bear shared gmail calendar and let you know what's really up. Hold on again. Sorry.

Oh Matt Parish's birthday was on the eighteenth of April! K hold on. David has something called "Bio Conference" at the beginning of May. Doesn't that sound riveting? Jonathan is playing drums for Hallelujah the Hills (or is it still Hallelujah the Hills if Eric isn't on drums?) on the 26th of May. That should be fun to see! Sadly, Polaris Mine is playing our last show on May 31 -- but, then I happen to know that there's a little Lebowski on the way (musically speaking). Whoa! Jonathan is going to Myrtle Beach for an entire week in June! Fuck! I'm glad I looked at this. We need to kick the songwriting into high gear, friends! Oh yeah -- Bonds and I are heading out to San Francisco to visit friends -- that's from the eighth of June to the eleventh. It looks like David's girlfriend Katharine has a school reunion in June as well. There are the recording dates. The shit is just sitting there in pink haunting me. Oh, David's sister is in town for the first week in July -- I wonder if that means he can't practice. Actually, I think Webster is going away at the beginning of July as well -- though I don't know why it's not on the calendar. Jordyn's sister is getting married at the end of July. That's going to be a good one. Total hippie. We wrote to her to ask her what to wear -- like, do we need to be super dressy or whatever -- and she wrote back totally disregarding our question and simply saying, "Make sure that you're wearing something with green in it."

Oh dude, man! The National Championship Chuckwagon races are happening on Jordyn's dad's farm in Clinton, Arkansas at the end of August. It's actually the land next to his, but he rents out camp sites and has a load of events going on by the trail house -- I totally suggest going down. It's amazing. When we were there last time, there were twenty thousand people and eleven thousand horses. It has been advertised as the largest equestrian event in the Northern Hemisphere.* Insane. If you're any brand of vegetarian, don't go there.

*If anyone can figure out how to make a funny joke about Pegasus here, please let me know. I've got nothing. K bye.

 

 

 

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ih: What's your favorite place to play in Boston?

Joel: My favorite place to play in Boston, currently, is Great Scott. Let me think about why for a second. Well, I could just be saying that because it's two blocks away from my apartment (roughly five blocks from the practice space). What I tell myself, however, is that (a) the booking people are exceptionally accommodating (b) the staff is super duper nice (c) the room sounds great (d) the sound people are super thoughtful, polite, and engaged (e) the way the room is set up, you can watch a band OR hang in the back with your parents who sometimes drive up for shows because they're so proud of you, and last but not least (f) the promoters are really enthusiastic about the shows they book. Like, I can't remember ever hearing Carl (the head booker guy) talk about a show he has coming up without hearing him say something like, "Holy shit, I'm so fucking psyched for that show." And yes, he totally swears just like that. It's really a nice feeling because it gives me [read: one] the feeling that he's just as enthusiastic about my band or project when he's talking to people who are not me. And he totally let me put my parents on the list when our list was full.